1 00:00:22,990 --> 00:00:14,910 [Music] 2 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,130 I mean it could be done either way 3 00:00:28,140 --> 00:00:33,470 [Music] 4 00:00:49,310 --> 00:00:35,210 foreign 5 00:01:15,850 --> 00:01:10,500 [Music] 6 00:01:24,350 --> 00:01:20,510 the eyes of a cat who knows what that 7 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:36,350 [Music] 8 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,640 let's not described which it uh 9 00:01:41,650 --> 00:01:46,249 [Music] 10 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:48,109 hey first good evening welcome to 11 00:01:51,590 --> 00:01:49,920 another episode of fans and monsters 12 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:51,600 radio where we explore the strangely 13 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:53,759 unexplained I'm your host lawn Stricker 14 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:55,200 thanks for joining me 15 00:01:59,630 --> 00:01:57,840 now uh if you enjoy our content then 16 00:02:02,030 --> 00:01:59,640 please subscribe like and share our 17 00:02:04,730 --> 00:02:02,040 presentations and please feel free to 18 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do a question and answer 33 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:42,959 session if uh if you know until she 34 00:02:46,670 --> 00:02:44,160 comes in here 35 00:02:48,350 --> 00:02:46,680 uh so if there's anything that's on your 36 00:02:50,589 --> 00:02:48,360 mind you know just go ahead and put it 37 00:02:53,270 --> 00:02:50,599 up in the chat and we'll go from there 38 00:02:54,170 --> 00:02:53,280 uh and I'll go ahead and answer the best 39 00:02:55,970 --> 00:02:54,180 I can 40 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:55,980 uh first of all I'm going to announce 41 00:02:59,869 --> 00:02:59,040 that uh Vincent's show is not going to 42 00:03:04,850 --> 00:02:59,879 be 43 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:04,860 got some issues and uh 44 00:03:10,610 --> 00:03:07,200 so uh Vince is not even with me tonight 45 00:03:12,890 --> 00:03:10,620 uh Bill's filling in I appreciate that 46 00:03:14,869 --> 00:03:12,900 so um 47 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:14,879 yeah so if you image there's anything 48 00:03:18,649 --> 00:03:16,560 you want to talk about anything that's 49 00:03:21,770 --> 00:03:18,659 happened in the Paranormal anything new 50 00:03:24,770 --> 00:03:21,780 in you know just like this UFO 51 00:03:26,509 --> 00:03:24,780 balloon connection and shooting down 52 00:03:29,449 --> 00:03:26,519 thing that's the biggest thing in the 53 00:03:31,850 --> 00:03:29,459 news right now and quite frankly I don't 54 00:03:32,509 --> 00:03:31,860 know what to think about all that 55 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:32,519 um 56 00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:34,620 I did post a few things today on the 57 00:03:38,930 --> 00:03:37,140 blog so if you go to fans.com we've got 58 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:38,940 a lot of that up there 59 00:03:44,270 --> 00:03:41,940 uh some speculation some some stories 60 00:03:46,190 --> 00:03:44,280 that have been sent to me 61 00:03:48,170 --> 00:03:46,200 um 62 00:03:50,990 --> 00:03:48,180 but like I said and anything else you 63 00:03:53,089 --> 00:03:51,000 want to talk about we can do that I I 64 00:03:56,089 --> 00:03:53,099 have um 65 00:03:58,250 --> 00:03:56,099 I have been posting a few odd things so 66 00:04:00,170 --> 00:03:58,260 I I guess we can talk about some of this 67 00:04:03,289 --> 00:04:00,180 stuff 68 00:04:07,009 --> 00:04:04,970 it's been a lot like I said I've been a 69 00:04:08,809 --> 00:04:07,019 lot of UFO activity I think because of 70 00:04:10,369 --> 00:04:08,819 all this stuff in the news people are 71 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:10,379 kind of looking 72 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:12,720 looking up in the sky I've been getting 73 00:04:17,750 --> 00:04:15,599 a bunch of um 74 00:04:21,170 --> 00:04:17,760 I've been getting a bunch of 75 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:21,180 um reports from people 76 00:04:33,050 --> 00:04:30,650 okay Bernadette asked what are your 77 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:33,060 thoughts on the angel found in Russia 78 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:36,120 the angel found in Russia 79 00:04:45,170 --> 00:04:40,560 okay now that's I haven't heard that uh 80 00:04:47,629 --> 00:04:45,180 I I can you kind of expound on that so I 81 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:47,639 can give you you know I haven't even 82 00:04:53,510 --> 00:04:51,120 heard anything about that until that uh 83 00:04:55,850 --> 00:04:53,520 David David Jones Locker asked do you 84 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:55,860 think you ever encountered a reptilian 85 00:05:00,110 --> 00:04:57,600 and I don't think I have 86 00:05:02,749 --> 00:05:00,120 I uh 87 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:02,759 you know of course being involved with 88 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:06,240 David eckhardt's case 89 00:05:13,969 --> 00:05:08,400 I've 90 00:05:15,469 --> 00:05:13,979 know I have been known to them 91 00:05:18,350 --> 00:05:15,479 um 92 00:05:21,950 --> 00:05:18,360 but as far as actually having an 93 00:05:26,270 --> 00:05:24,710 um I can't say that I have uh and if I 94 00:05:28,730 --> 00:05:26,280 did it's inadvertent I don't I don't 95 00:05:30,770 --> 00:05:28,740 remember it or if it was you know or 96 00:05:33,469 --> 00:05:30,780 knew that they were around me 97 00:05:36,590 --> 00:05:33,479 uh David had mentioned in the past that 98 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:36,600 they do they do cloak so you know it may 99 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:38,400 have been I've 100 00:05:43,010 --> 00:05:40,560 you know I've had encounters I am an 101 00:05:46,070 --> 00:05:43,020 experiencer I've had uh I do have at 102 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:46,080 least one abduction that I do know of 103 00:05:54,110 --> 00:05:50,880 uh but uh as far as encountering 104 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:54,120 a reptilian I can't say that I have 105 00:05:59,330 --> 00:05:57,000 so Marla one wants to know how your take 106 00:06:02,930 --> 00:05:59,340 on what the objects are that are shot 107 00:06:09,370 --> 00:06:06,950 I believe that they're innocuous I I 108 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:09,380 don't think they're 109 00:06:14,810 --> 00:06:11,340 interplanetary 110 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:14,820 craft or that but then again you they're 111 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:18,000 not really telling us a whole bunch 112 00:06:25,249 --> 00:06:23,029 the fact that so many of them showed up 113 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:25,259 all of a sudden and and people are 114 00:06:28,070 --> 00:06:26,479 seeing them 115 00:06:30,529 --> 00:06:28,080 and 116 00:06:31,790 --> 00:06:30,539 um they're coming in all different sizes 117 00:06:34,670 --> 00:06:31,800 and stuff 118 00:06:35,390 --> 00:06:34,680 as opposed to the original one I I don't 119 00:06:40,309 --> 00:06:35,400 know 120 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:40,319 um 121 00:06:44,510 --> 00:06:42,720 you know I'm kind of kind of put 122 00:06:46,670 --> 00:06:44,520 in a position where it's hard for me to 123 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:46,680 understand what's really going on 124 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:47,759 so 125 00:06:53,450 --> 00:06:51,840 what I'm gonna do I'm gonna go ahead and 126 00:06:56,450 --> 00:06:53,460 read her bio 127 00:06:58,909 --> 00:06:56,460 uh Brenda Harris is Native American and 128 00:07:00,830 --> 00:06:58,919 resigns in Upper Fruitland New Mexico in 129 00:07:03,170 --> 00:07:00,840 the Danae Navajo Nation 130 00:07:06,350 --> 00:07:03,180 she has conducted Bigfoot investigation 131 00:07:08,689 --> 00:07:06,360 and research for 30 plus years she has 132 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:08,699 also started the New Mexico Shadow 133 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:10,440 Seekers team and you can find them on 134 00:07:13,309 --> 00:07:12,000 Facebook 135 00:07:15,170 --> 00:07:13,319 um Brenda has been interviewed on 136 00:07:16,850 --> 00:07:15,180 several ratios has appeared on Monsters 137 00:07:19,969 --> 00:07:16,860 and Mysteries in America and finding 138 00:07:21,589 --> 00:07:19,979 Bigfoot TV series on two occasions 139 00:07:23,990 --> 00:07:21,599 she has also appeared on Ghost 140 00:07:26,270 --> 00:07:24,000 Adventures and Unsolved Mysteries now 141 00:07:28,850 --> 00:07:26,280 she encourages all who enter the woods 142 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:28,860 in the domain of the Bigfoot to always 143 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:31,919 remain Vigilant and careful so 144 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:34,080 Brenda thank you for joining me this 145 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,350 hey 146 00:07:41,749 --> 00:07:40,730 there you are 147 00:07:43,610 --> 00:07:41,759 hi 148 00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:43,620 can you hear me 149 00:07:49,610 --> 00:07:46,560 I hear you fine so how you been 150 00:07:50,749 --> 00:07:49,620 uh I am okay sorry I'm late I was trying 151 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:50,759 to get in 152 00:07:54,529 --> 00:07:52,560 and I was having a little bit of issues 153 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:54,539 here wow 154 00:08:00,110 --> 00:07:56,160 where you're in that's the important 155 00:08:02,390 --> 00:08:00,120 thing so uh I I know you know I have 156 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:02,400 kind of kept in contact with you off and 157 00:08:09,050 --> 00:08:06,120 on for years uh even when um I was 158 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:09,060 working a bit with uh with JC and a few 159 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:11,039 other people in in the air the four 160 00:08:15,529 --> 00:08:12,960 corners area 161 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:15,539 um kind of can you kind of give me a 162 00:08:19,309 --> 00:08:17,759 thumbnail what you know what you've been 163 00:08:21,529 --> 00:08:19,319 involved with what your team has been 164 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:21,539 involved with over the years 165 00:08:26,330 --> 00:08:24,479 uh doing uh some a big a lot of Bigfoot 166 00:08:29,029 --> 00:08:26,340 investigations 167 00:08:31,369 --> 00:08:29,039 uh um they're out on the reservation 168 00:08:34,130 --> 00:08:31,379 here in the area where I live like in uh 169 00:08:36,829 --> 00:08:34,140 upper field in Shiprock call back 170 00:08:41,510 --> 00:08:36,839 uh the local chicken mountains in 171 00:08:43,730 --> 00:08:41,520 Arizona uh whiskey Lake Area all up uh 172 00:08:44,389 --> 00:08:43,740 towards Arizona side 173 00:08:46,970 --> 00:08:44,399 um 174 00:08:48,650 --> 00:08:46,980 not only that but you know other things 175 00:08:49,310 --> 00:08:48,660 that have been roaming around in the 176 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:49,320 area 177 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:52,200 uh something of what they call 178 00:09:01,610 --> 00:08:52,880 um 179 00:09:02,990 --> 00:09:01,620 a dog man uh you know different uh 180 00:09:05,329 --> 00:09:03,000 different little thing you know things 181 00:09:07,009 --> 00:09:05,339 that are roaming around out here I've 182 00:09:09,769 --> 00:09:07,019 been checking into 183 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:09,779 um quite a bit so but the last census 184 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:11,519 covet thing everything's been kind of 185 00:09:15,650 --> 00:09:13,140 been put on hold 186 00:09:18,410 --> 00:09:15,660 until it's okay to go back out you know 187 00:09:22,610 --> 00:09:18,420 here on the reservation for the past 188 00:09:24,769 --> 00:09:22,620 what three why would not three years 189 00:09:26,870 --> 00:09:24,779 um haven't really done anything because 190 00:09:30,290 --> 00:09:26,880 everybody's told to stay put you know 191 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:30,300 don't be going out and going to people's 192 00:09:33,889 --> 00:09:32,040 houses or you know stuff like that 193 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:33,899 because of covid and that's the reason 194 00:09:38,990 --> 00:09:36,300 why you know I haven't really posted 195 00:09:40,970 --> 00:09:39,000 anything not only that but also been 196 00:09:43,310 --> 00:09:40,980 dealing with my um taking care of my 197 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:43,320 husband who's been ill with uh colon 198 00:09:49,490 --> 00:09:46,800 cancer and stuff like that so sorry 199 00:09:51,170 --> 00:09:49,500 um taking care of him so and then I had 200 00:09:52,370 --> 00:09:51,180 to put things back on the burner again 201 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:52,380 for a while 202 00:10:00,310 --> 00:09:57,360 so everything as of right now is um 203 00:10:03,110 --> 00:10:00,320 so far good thank God 204 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:03,120 so now I can start going back out and 205 00:10:09,889 --> 00:10:07,440 doing uh some more um field work you 206 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:09,899 know checking into more sightings and 207 00:10:14,329 --> 00:10:11,760 stuff that's going on in different areas 208 00:10:20,269 --> 00:10:17,870 so um you know I I used to talk like I 209 00:10:22,730 --> 00:10:20,279 said I used to talk to JC a lot when he 210 00:10:25,070 --> 00:10:22,740 was when he was there at the reservation 211 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:25,080 and he was looking into things and 212 00:10:28,790 --> 00:10:26,700 occasionally I would talk to you I would 213 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:28,800 talk to some of the other guys and 214 00:10:35,389 --> 00:10:31,500 people that were on the reservation had 215 00:10:38,210 --> 00:10:35,399 encounters and such but um 216 00:10:41,449 --> 00:10:38,220 what the Bigfoot in general 217 00:10:43,250 --> 00:10:41,459 what what is so distinctive about and I 218 00:10:45,650 --> 00:10:43,260 don't know if they call them the furry 219 00:10:48,350 --> 00:10:45,660 ones with you I I know many of the 220 00:10:52,970 --> 00:10:48,360 indigenous people there would refer to 221 00:10:55,370 --> 00:10:52,980 them to me as the furry ones but uh 222 00:10:57,829 --> 00:10:55,380 they do seem to be 223 00:11:04,790 --> 00:10:57,839 very 224 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:04,800 and uh for the most part uh what is your 225 00:11:09,170 --> 00:11:07,260 assessment on that dude is does it seem 226 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:09,180 to be a relationship between the people 227 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:12,480 and these creatures more so there than 228 00:11:18,050 --> 00:11:14,399 in other places 229 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:18,060 well I I wouldn't say like being the 230 00:11:23,329 --> 00:11:20,820 oh like in a like a friendly 231 00:11:25,790 --> 00:11:23,339 relationship or anything like that but 232 00:11:28,670 --> 00:11:25,800 it's it's more of 233 00:11:30,350 --> 00:11:28,680 um a lot of people are kind of afraid 234 00:11:32,269 --> 00:11:30,360 still 235 00:11:33,949 --> 00:11:32,279 um some you know a lot of them are just 236 00:11:36,050 --> 00:11:33,959 you know they um 237 00:11:38,389 --> 00:11:36,060 just leave it alone which is something 238 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:38,399 you know that we're all told to do right 239 00:11:42,889 --> 00:11:40,860 uh just you know let it you know roam 240 00:11:44,690 --> 00:11:42,899 you know where everybody needs to go Let 241 00:11:46,009 --> 00:11:44,700 it go you know don't bother it and it 242 00:11:49,670 --> 00:11:46,019 won't bother you 243 00:11:53,090 --> 00:11:49,680 uh but in a lot of cases though a lot of 244 00:11:54,769 --> 00:11:53,100 um what's been coming through here 245 00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:54,779 um like right now that a lot of them are 246 00:11:59,150 --> 00:11:57,120 hungry uh we have a I believe a family 247 00:12:01,430 --> 00:11:59,160 of 248 00:12:03,350 --> 00:12:01,440 let's see 249 00:12:05,269 --> 00:12:03,360 I guess you could say that the male 250 00:12:07,730 --> 00:12:05,279 female and the young one that's together 251 00:12:10,670 --> 00:12:07,740 traveling through here 252 00:12:12,230 --> 00:12:10,680 and just recently they had killed it had 253 00:12:15,530 --> 00:12:12,240 killed um 254 00:12:17,449 --> 00:12:15,540 a family's uh chicken oh uh I think it 255 00:12:19,370 --> 00:12:17,459 killed all their chickens I'm not quite 256 00:12:22,490 --> 00:12:19,380 sure maybe 257 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:22,500 I think they said between five and seven 258 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:24,240 chickens that were killed in one night 259 00:12:29,269 --> 00:12:26,880 so the family was you know really upset 260 00:12:32,329 --> 00:12:29,279 with that and they're hungry you know 261 00:12:34,069 --> 00:12:32,339 yeah um they're looking for food so it's 262 00:12:36,290 --> 00:12:34,079 usually about this time is when they 263 00:12:38,990 --> 00:12:36,300 start doing stuff like that 264 00:12:41,569 --> 00:12:39,000 um after all the Harvest is done 265 00:12:43,310 --> 00:12:41,579 and then there's no more food so now 266 00:12:45,170 --> 00:12:43,320 they start going for a small life and 267 00:12:46,610 --> 00:12:45,180 they're going after small animals and 268 00:12:48,530 --> 00:12:46,620 stuff 269 00:12:50,329 --> 00:12:48,540 um a lot you know a lot of the people 270 00:12:51,889 --> 00:12:50,339 um especially this family did they were 271 00:12:53,629 --> 00:12:51,899 pretty upset about it 272 00:12:55,730 --> 00:12:53,639 and so now 273 00:12:57,949 --> 00:12:55,740 um you know they're really keeping an 274 00:13:00,530 --> 00:12:57,959 eye and understand because I tell them 275 00:13:02,150 --> 00:13:00,540 you know different ones that you know a 276 00:13:04,850 --> 00:13:02,160 lot of the film is hey you know put some 277 00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:04,860 put some light up um put cameras up 278 00:13:08,810 --> 00:13:06,720 because then they don't like cameras you 279 00:13:10,129 --> 00:13:08,820 know they'll they'll go elsewhere a lot 280 00:13:13,069 --> 00:13:10,139 of the times 281 00:13:15,110 --> 00:13:13,079 so a lot of the people 282 00:13:16,370 --> 00:13:15,120 you know there you go they don't like it 283 00:13:19,069 --> 00:13:16,380 around 284 00:13:21,410 --> 00:13:19,079 uh because of it always attacking their 285 00:13:24,290 --> 00:13:21,420 their livestock and stuff like that 286 00:13:26,030 --> 00:13:24,300 or not only that or they'll hit the side 287 00:13:28,069 --> 00:13:26,040 of the home or town 288 00:13:30,769 --> 00:13:28,079 the windows you know 289 00:13:33,050 --> 00:13:30,779 and so um a lot of people they do they 290 00:13:35,269 --> 00:13:33,060 get scared like what does it want what's 291 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:35,279 it doing here you know majority of time 292 00:13:40,670 --> 00:13:38,160 is they're curious but like I said as of 293 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:40,680 right now they're hungry so now they're 294 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:43,440 going to be going uh after um 295 00:13:50,329 --> 00:13:46,320 uh livestock you know try to get what 296 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:50,339 they can because they're hungry right 297 00:13:55,129 --> 00:13:51,600 um 298 00:13:57,949 --> 00:13:55,139 do they uh do these uh individuals or 299 00:14:00,889 --> 00:13:57,959 even family groups seem to migrate in 300 00:14:04,129 --> 00:14:00,899 certain areas either there I mean in New 301 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:04,139 Mexico or over in Arizona uh are there 302 00:14:09,949 --> 00:14:06,480 certain areas where they they go to at 303 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:09,959 certain time times a year 304 00:14:15,829 --> 00:14:13,920 oh well the ones uh that uh might been 305 00:14:18,410 --> 00:14:15,839 um kind of keeping an eye on they seem 306 00:14:21,470 --> 00:14:18,420 to hang around down at the river the San 307 00:14:24,110 --> 00:14:21,480 Juan River San Juan River yeah yeah uh 308 00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:24,120 so you know there's a family not only 309 00:14:28,190 --> 00:14:26,459 just that that the family I'm talking 310 00:14:29,810 --> 00:14:28,200 about 311 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:29,820 um there's another 312 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:31,680 um another I think it was another two 313 00:14:37,730 --> 00:14:34,560 that's hanging around more in my area uh 314 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:37,740 which is one uh that I've noticed but it 315 00:14:41,870 --> 00:14:39,060 came down to one 316 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:41,880 so we've got one here like a family of 317 00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:43,920 them hanging in between Shiprock and the 318 00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:45,620 hallback area 319 00:14:52,670 --> 00:14:49,920 to my area is like one or two uh there's 320 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:52,680 a one that was yelling uh last month 321 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:55,199 along on the south side of our home 322 00:14:59,210 --> 00:14:57,180 uh on the little Mesa they're walking 323 00:15:00,889 --> 00:14:59,220 heading towards East and it was really 324 00:15:03,710 --> 00:15:00,899 yelling and that was about midnight when 325 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:03,720 it was was screaming so 326 00:15:07,550 --> 00:15:05,880 they they move around a lot along the 327 00:15:10,370 --> 00:15:07,560 rivers 328 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:10,380 um yeah a lot of them still hang up out 329 00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:11,760 in the course out in the mountains and 330 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:13,680 they have caves up that way and where 331 00:15:17,210 --> 00:15:15,120 they 332 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:17,220 um stay in so but along the river 333 00:15:22,490 --> 00:15:20,040 there's um I believe there's some areas 334 00:15:24,530 --> 00:15:22,500 that have maybe some small caves that 335 00:15:27,290 --> 00:15:24,540 they um hide in or you know 336 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:27,300 so that's where they bunker down in 337 00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:28,800 um quite a bit so a lot of people have 338 00:15:33,050 --> 00:15:30,959 seen it down at the river not only along 339 00:15:34,490 --> 00:15:33,060 the San Juan River but also along the 340 00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:34,500 Animas River 341 00:15:39,829 --> 00:15:36,959 which is more towards Farmington New 342 00:15:46,970 --> 00:15:41,150 yeah 343 00:15:50,090 --> 00:15:46,980 big the uh the Navajo Nation is actually 344 00:15:51,949 --> 00:15:50,100 I mean I guess most of it is actually in 345 00:15:54,829 --> 00:15:51,959 Arizona but 346 00:15:57,050 --> 00:15:54,839 um it's a huge it's a huge reservation I 347 00:16:00,650 --> 00:15:57,060 mean it's it's 348 00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:00,660 you know it's huge it's it's a lot a lot 349 00:16:05,389 --> 00:16:03,120 of area to 350 00:16:07,129 --> 00:16:05,399 um go looking you know if you want to 351 00:16:08,569 --> 00:16:07,139 investigate you know and not only in 352 00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:08,579 Bigfoot but you're not different other 353 00:16:14,090 --> 00:16:10,800 creatures that's roaming around in those 354 00:16:16,910 --> 00:16:14,100 areas there's huge huge area you know it 355 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:16,920 would take a lot of time to 356 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:19,680 to check out those areas out that way in 357 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:23,279 Arizona because there's just so rugged 358 00:16:26,990 --> 00:16:26,220 areas you know to get into you know you 359 00:16:28,910 --> 00:16:27,000 can't 360 00:16:30,889 --> 00:16:28,920 maybe you can get in there uh you can 361 00:16:31,730 --> 00:16:30,899 get in there through um or riding a 362 00:16:34,189 --> 00:16:31,740 horse 363 00:16:37,610 --> 00:16:34,199 but a lot of it would be do a lot of 364 00:16:42,350 --> 00:16:39,829 now you mentioned the chupacabra what 365 00:16:43,850 --> 00:16:42,360 what was that all about 366 00:16:45,230 --> 00:16:43,860 um that was 367 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:45,240 um 368 00:16:52,129 --> 00:16:49,680 back in 2009 or 2010 369 00:16:54,290 --> 00:16:52,139 and let me see here maybe the latter 370 00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:54,300 part of 2009 371 00:16:57,889 --> 00:16:56,639 as um when 372 00:17:00,889 --> 00:16:57,899 um 373 00:17:04,010 --> 00:17:00,899 I had to gotten a call you know from the 374 00:17:07,370 --> 00:17:04,020 chapter house here I had two grandmas 375 00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:07,380 that were asking for me and crying and 376 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:09,540 stuff and wanting me to come to their 377 00:17:14,929 --> 00:17:12,480 home because they had lost some sheep 378 00:17:17,630 --> 00:17:14,939 and when I get there they're all you 379 00:17:20,210 --> 00:17:17,640 know in tears like I said and they told 380 00:17:21,650 --> 00:17:20,220 me that well they're what they were 381 00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:21,660 thinking what killed her sheep was a 382 00:17:27,470 --> 00:17:25,919 Bigfoot right and so when I went back to 383 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:27,480 their home they showed me what had 384 00:17:32,090 --> 00:17:29,760 happened and they showed me pictures of 385 00:17:34,370 --> 00:17:32,100 what happened to their sheep when what I 386 00:17:38,690 --> 00:17:34,380 Came Upon was um 387 00:17:40,970 --> 00:17:38,700 like a punctured hole in the neck a slit 388 00:17:43,850 --> 00:17:40,980 you know like a surgical slate me about 389 00:17:46,610 --> 00:17:43,860 you know so small I bought that small 390 00:17:49,490 --> 00:17:46,620 on the side and 391 00:17:51,230 --> 00:17:49,500 it's crazy just that little slit there a 392 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:51,240 lot of their insides was hanging out 393 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:54,240 none of that was touched at all 394 00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:56,880 uh all the blood was sucked out 395 00:18:01,190 --> 00:17:59,039 and usually right 396 00:18:02,990 --> 00:18:01,200 a Bigfoot usually doesn't do that you 397 00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:03,000 know this is something else you know and 398 00:18:08,210 --> 00:18:05,280 all the blood was sucked out 399 00:18:10,370 --> 00:18:08,220 and I usually want a Bigfoot kills uh 400 00:18:12,110 --> 00:18:10,380 the Sheep like that they usually just 401 00:18:14,590 --> 00:18:12,120 rip right into it and kind of shred it 402 00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:14,600 up you know uh just 403 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:17,039 break their legs and all of that you 404 00:18:20,570 --> 00:18:18,720 know and then kind of tear it to pieces 405 00:18:21,770 --> 00:18:20,580 you know but this one was totally 406 00:18:24,650 --> 00:18:21,780 different 407 00:18:29,210 --> 00:18:24,660 um when I walked around the family's 408 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:29,220 home I didn't find no big Bigfoot print 409 00:18:34,570 --> 00:18:31,200 I found a lot of 410 00:18:36,669 --> 00:18:34,580 um scratches on the Corral 411 00:18:39,770 --> 00:18:36,679 in whatever 412 00:18:42,289 --> 00:18:39,780 uh did that what kind of thing is that 413 00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:42,299 it was a chupacabra but 414 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:44,880 I don't know if it was it was it's got 415 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:48,000 to be a huge chupacabra 416 00:18:52,850 --> 00:18:51,120 um that um so I had to tell you know 417 00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:52,860 because the grandma you know they were 418 00:18:55,549 --> 00:18:54,360 asking can you please can you just kill 419 00:18:57,070 --> 00:18:55,559 it you know they're asking me to kill 420 00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:57,080 bigfoot because of killing their 421 00:19:01,789 --> 00:18:59,039 livestock and 422 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:01,799 and you know you know what do I say you 423 00:19:06,770 --> 00:19:04,559 know you know so I told her you know 424 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:06,780 let's get some light up and I'll put 425 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:10,080 some cameras up and I'll keep checking 426 00:19:15,289 --> 00:19:12,960 and I said I don't think this is a pick 427 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:15,299 but this is something else that is 428 00:19:21,890 --> 00:19:18,240 killing um a lot of your sheep 429 00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:21,900 so the following week 430 00:19:27,529 --> 00:19:24,900 I had one of our church members came up 431 00:19:29,630 --> 00:19:27,539 to me and asked me to come to their home 432 00:19:33,230 --> 00:19:29,640 and I have something to show you I 433 00:19:36,110 --> 00:19:33,240 really need you to come over I said okay 434 00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:36,120 so um I believe it was my brother and I 435 00:19:39,169 --> 00:19:38,160 after church we went headed over to her 436 00:19:42,770 --> 00:19:39,179 home 437 00:19:45,529 --> 00:19:42,780 and she showed me they had a ram that 438 00:19:48,610 --> 00:19:45,539 weighed anywhere I believe three to four 439 00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:48,620 hundred pound Ram it's a huge RAM 440 00:19:54,770 --> 00:19:51,900 and um they had took me to the Corral 441 00:19:56,990 --> 00:19:54,780 and the same thing 442 00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:57,000 um punctured hole in the neck all the 443 00:20:01,250 --> 00:19:58,559 blood was sucked out and that little 444 00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:01,260 surgical slit on the side of them where 445 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:03,480 all the insides was hanging out 446 00:20:07,250 --> 00:20:05,760 and none of that was touched you know 447 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:07,260 all it did was suck the blood out of 448 00:20:11,930 --> 00:20:08,220 them 449 00:20:13,970 --> 00:20:11,940 and so she had 15 sheep 450 00:20:16,130 --> 00:20:13,980 in 451 00:20:18,289 --> 00:20:16,140 and see when I went over there she had 452 00:20:20,210 --> 00:20:18,299 showed me I didn't get to see that the 453 00:20:22,909 --> 00:20:20,220 ram itself but they did show me a 454 00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:22,919 picture of this Ram 455 00:20:27,049 --> 00:20:25,440 and what it did to this rim and the 456 00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:27,059 other sheet that they had in the Krell 457 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,520 the legs you know you could see where 458 00:20:34,490 --> 00:20:31,679 this thing like just ripped off the uh 459 00:20:37,490 --> 00:20:34,500 the wool the skin 460 00:20:40,909 --> 00:20:37,500 um off their leg and a lot of the sheep 461 00:20:42,830 --> 00:20:40,919 that uh there was oh maybe I believed 462 00:20:46,130 --> 00:20:42,840 six or eight of them that were still 463 00:20:48,529 --> 00:20:46,140 alive but they were badly badly injured 464 00:20:49,549 --> 00:20:48,539 and so 465 00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:49,559 um 466 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:51,840 someone running around soon they had bad 467 00:20:56,990 --> 00:20:54,480 wounds and with really deep bad cuts and 468 00:20:58,130 --> 00:20:57,000 all and so they showed me the picture of 469 00:21:00,770 --> 00:20:58,140 this Ram 470 00:21:02,990 --> 00:21:00,780 like I said it weighed between three to 471 00:21:05,690 --> 00:21:03,000 four hundred pounds and whatever they 472 00:21:08,450 --> 00:21:05,700 said that it it drugged the Lamb by the 473 00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,460 back legs drug it out of the Corral and 474 00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:10,559 it looked like it sat on top on top of 475 00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:12,720 the ram 476 00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:17,820 and shoved its head down into the ground 477 00:21:20,810 --> 00:21:18,480 um 478 00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:20,820 really like that I mean just shoved it 479 00:21:25,549 --> 00:21:24,059 in a gallon and same thing in a wound on 480 00:21:28,010 --> 00:21:25,559 the neck all the blood was sucked out 481 00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:28,020 there's a cut on the side all the 482 00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:29,880 stuff's hanging out again 483 00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:31,500 and so that when they showed me that 484 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:34,080 picture I was like oh man 485 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:37,679 and so they had a hauled office he won 486 00:21:43,490 --> 00:21:40,799 two that night three 487 00:21:47,570 --> 00:21:45,770 the dog was killed that night that was 488 00:21:50,210 --> 00:21:47,580 in one night so four animals were killed 489 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:50,220 and so later on that afternoon after 490 00:21:55,010 --> 00:21:51,840 they showed me the pictures and stuff 491 00:21:55,970 --> 00:21:55,020 and they did take me to where 492 00:21:58,730 --> 00:21:55,980 um 493 00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,740 they had all that Rama 494 00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,240 um so they took me to and I took 495 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:02,880 pictures of it and what I found the very 496 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:05,280 strange on that um 497 00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:07,919 the ram 498 00:22:11,390 --> 00:22:09,600 is 499 00:22:14,210 --> 00:22:11,400 when I looked at the face of the ram 500 00:22:16,010 --> 00:22:14,220 there was so much dirt shoved into its 501 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:16,020 nose like inside all the way up into his 502 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:17,760 nostrils about halfway and then dirt in 503 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:20,400 its mouth there was dirt in the eyes and 504 00:22:25,549 --> 00:22:23,039 like I said like it shoved its head down 505 00:22:30,590 --> 00:22:25,559 into the ground pretty hard 506 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,600 and not only that but on the side where 507 00:22:35,810 --> 00:22:32,480 um 508 00:22:38,450 --> 00:22:35,820 what it looked like was you know your 509 00:22:43,010 --> 00:22:38,460 your nail okay so you got this if I had 510 00:22:45,950 --> 00:22:43,020 longer Nails here so it like ripped the 511 00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:45,960 skin off the side of the ram but it left 512 00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:48,720 an imprint of the nail and the outside 513 00:22:52,909 --> 00:22:51,480 of the hand now on the eight uh see on 514 00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:52,919 the the 515 00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:56,400 oh like an imprint that was literally 516 00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:58,799 it's almost like it was branded onto 517 00:23:01,789 --> 00:23:00,720 that sheep and the skin was like pulled 518 00:23:03,529 --> 00:23:01,799 off 519 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,539 on the edge it looked like little burn 520 00:23:08,570 --> 00:23:06,240 marks and left like a perfect fur Mario 521 00:23:11,450 --> 00:23:08,580 like at the edge of the um your hand and 522 00:23:14,770 --> 00:23:11,460 you could you could see that nail 523 00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:14,780 you and I'm like wow that that 524 00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:18,360 looks kind of I never seen anything like 525 00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:19,260 that 526 00:23:25,970 --> 00:23:22,799 and I'm like oh you know what is this 527 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:25,980 okay so that had happened so 528 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:28,320 it didn't come back from admin you know 529 00:23:32,210 --> 00:23:30,419 checking throughout the month you know a 530 00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,220 couple months well about two months ago 531 00:23:36,770 --> 00:23:34,559 was buying and she called me and she 532 00:23:37,730 --> 00:23:36,780 goes well 533 00:23:39,770 --> 00:23:37,740 um 534 00:23:41,810 --> 00:23:39,780 well after that that first incident with 535 00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:41,820 the three that died the three sheep and 536 00:23:46,430 --> 00:23:44,100 the RAM and it's a dog so that was for 537 00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:46,440 that died that that month 538 00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:49,440 okay and after I did my little um 539 00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:51,120 checking into it and checking all the 540 00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:53,100 other sheep and all 541 00:23:57,529 --> 00:23:55,919 um the ones that were badly injured they 542 00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:57,539 put all of those down and so she was 543 00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:00,480 left with only one one uh one sheep out 544 00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:02,760 of 15 that she had 545 00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:07,200 so the family that lives next to her 546 00:24:14,450 --> 00:24:10,640 two months goes by 547 00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:14,460 in in one I see her the family that 548 00:24:21,169 --> 00:24:16,799 lives across from them on the east side 549 00:24:22,490 --> 00:24:21,179 of them lost 25 sheep in one night to 550 00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:22,500 the same thing 551 00:24:27,070 --> 00:24:24,720 one night 25 sheep 552 00:24:29,390 --> 00:24:27,080 that wouldn't happen to be the Hogback 553 00:24:32,510 --> 00:24:29,400 isn't it would it 554 00:24:36,289 --> 00:24:32,520 though this is another one though I know 555 00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:36,299 I know I know JC did that one right this 556 00:24:42,049 --> 00:24:37,620 is another one that I'm talking about 557 00:24:43,610 --> 00:24:42,059 here okay so this one did uh 25 and I 558 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:43,620 think the one you're talking about was 559 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:48,720 30 or 35 sheep that was killed yeah 560 00:24:53,870 --> 00:24:50,820 so this one that I'm talking about was 561 00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:53,880 25 and they live right next door to the 562 00:24:57,710 --> 00:24:56,340 to the lady that I know uh same thing 563 00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:57,720 happened to them 564 00:25:04,669 --> 00:25:01,679 and the following year or that later on 565 00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:04,679 another month goes by not another 566 00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:07,080 same thing was done to another family 567 00:25:13,130 --> 00:25:10,020 yeah I would say maybe a year or a 568 00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:13,140 couple let's see no I take that back 569 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,440 it's been what Falls maybe eight years 570 00:25:21,529 --> 00:25:18,080 now 571 00:25:24,169 --> 00:25:21,539 that um is whatever this thing is it 572 00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,179 came back you know it did the same thing 573 00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:26,640 again but in the Shiprock area 574 00:25:32,210 --> 00:25:30,360 mm-hmm and um you know people are like 575 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,220 what what is this you know what what the 576 00:25:36,169 --> 00:25:33,840 heck's going on 577 00:25:38,090 --> 00:25:36,179 you know it wasn't not just that family 578 00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:38,100 but there were several other family the 579 00:25:42,529 --> 00:25:39,600 same thing happened 580 00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:42,539 and so you know I don't you know same 581 00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,460 thing get get some light up and and 582 00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,320 let's see you know what we can pick up 583 00:25:50,029 --> 00:25:48,000 on camera and stuff like that and you 584 00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:50,039 know I never came back around hasn't 585 00:25:54,610 --> 00:25:51,900 come back around that that then not that 586 00:25:59,149 --> 00:25:54,620 I know of since then 587 00:26:02,830 --> 00:25:59,159 I um I remember when this the the 588 00:26:06,590 --> 00:26:02,840 Hogback that was back in March of 2010 589 00:26:08,769 --> 00:26:06,600 and uh JC had told me he he counted 24 590 00:26:10,850 --> 00:26:08,779 sheep for mutilated 591 00:26:14,330 --> 00:26:10,860 and um 592 00:26:15,529 --> 00:26:14,340 he he said that the um the livestock 593 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:15,539 owner 594 00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:18,720 said that there were large Talent marks 595 00:26:22,610 --> 00:26:21,659 but very little blood no evisceration at 596 00:26:25,490 --> 00:26:22,620 all 597 00:26:28,370 --> 00:26:25,500 and uh you know 598 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:28,380 I I don't know how long that 599 00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:30,900 that Jeezy looked into it but his 600 00:26:39,049 --> 00:26:33,900 thoughts to me were that it may actually 601 00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,970 now I don't I don't know what kind of 602 00:26:44,510 --> 00:26:42,480 evidence that's what I think you know 603 00:26:47,630 --> 00:26:44,520 and that's right for the family 604 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:47,640 yeah the only kind of footprint that I 605 00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,220 found was 606 00:26:54,110 --> 00:26:53,039 um kind of looked like a horse's hoof 607 00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:54,120 okay 608 00:26:57,649 --> 00:26:55,440 um 609 00:27:02,750 --> 00:26:57,659 that was the only thing that I could 610 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:02,760 find but now probably about so 611 00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:06,480 maybe 600 yards 612 00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:09,000 from the one that I was looking at way 613 00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:11,820 more back into the tree lines that I did 614 00:27:18,289 --> 00:27:15,720 find a a Bigfoot footprint that way 615 00:27:20,810 --> 00:27:18,299 but more around the Corel of the family 616 00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,820 where they lost the Sheep the print that 617 00:27:24,049 --> 00:27:22,559 I found was more like almost like a 618 00:27:28,669 --> 00:27:24,059 horse's hoove 619 00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:28,679 and d uh scratches on the around the 620 00:27:35,330 --> 00:27:34,250 yeah 621 00:27:38,090 --> 00:27:35,340 um 622 00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:38,100 folks if you uh go to the if you go to 623 00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:40,200 families of monsters.com on the right 624 00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:41,580 hand column 625 00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:44,640 I've got a uh a link there to some of 626 00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:47,880 JC's investigations that I reported on 627 00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:50,940 and uh I've got I've got photographs of 628 00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,640 the sheep mutilation mystery over at 629 00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,440 Hogback so uh 630 00:28:01,010 --> 00:27:57,840 you want to check that out it it's it's 631 00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:01,020 very similar to what you described these 632 00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:03,240 uh these sheep just I mean it just looks 633 00:28:06,409 --> 00:28:04,740 like something went in there and just 634 00:28:09,730 --> 00:28:06,419 sucked the blood right out of every one 635 00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:09,740 of them it's uh it's very eerie 636 00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:13,200 but he did mention me that he did you 637 00:28:16,010 --> 00:28:14,520 know for that's the first thing he 638 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:16,020 thought for at first of all maybe a 639 00:28:21,289 --> 00:28:17,880 Bigfoot was coming in there 640 00:28:23,870 --> 00:28:21,299 but then he he said whatever it was had 641 00:28:26,990 --> 00:28:23,880 to have been dropped in there like a 642 00:28:28,850 --> 00:28:27,000 bird or you know and uh he he just 643 00:28:30,830 --> 00:28:28,860 couldn't understand what it was and I 644 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:30,840 don't think he really did come up with 645 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:34,559 much of an answer no 646 00:28:40,010 --> 00:28:36,960 interesting 647 00:28:42,529 --> 00:28:40,020 now you did mention of um 648 00:28:45,649 --> 00:28:42,539 of canines upright canines and possibly 649 00:28:48,909 --> 00:28:45,659 dog man and and what what type of cases 650 00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:48,919 have you worked on or had been aware of 651 00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:52,559 involving that just uh what I've been 652 00:28:59,810 --> 00:28:56,460 aware of is up there towards uh 653 00:29:01,870 --> 00:28:59,820 oh what do you call that nappy area or 654 00:29:03,769 --> 00:29:01,880 they have the old 655 00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:03,779 agriculture place up there where they 656 00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:05,820 you know plant a lot of um 657 00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:08,760 uh corn and stuff up that way 658 00:29:12,649 --> 00:29:10,799 um there's been a lot of sightings of a 659 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:12,659 huge what they call a dog man that's 660 00:29:17,870 --> 00:29:15,600 been running across the road 661 00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:17,880 um there and um 662 00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:20,520 I believe also on the hot back area I 663 00:29:25,490 --> 00:29:22,200 went and uh 664 00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:25,500 was uh checking a family some boy big 665 00:29:28,250 --> 00:29:26,640 but they've been having a lot of big 666 00:29:31,149 --> 00:29:28,260 activity 667 00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,159 uh back in 668 00:29:37,130 --> 00:29:34,080 2011 I think it was 669 00:29:39,289 --> 00:29:37,140 between 10 and 11 I think um 670 00:29:41,690 --> 00:29:39,299 I went down towards the river at the end 671 00:29:43,370 --> 00:29:41,700 of the field to go to you know see what 672 00:29:45,649 --> 00:29:43,380 kind of like if I need to prints or any 673 00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:45,659 stuff you know it's just stuff like that 674 00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:49,919 and across the river there's a lot of um 675 00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:51,720 foliage you know really thick brushes 676 00:29:55,370 --> 00:29:52,980 and stuff 677 00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:55,380 excuse me and um 678 00:30:00,590 --> 00:29:58,559 I had seen some something move you know 679 00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,600 and 680 00:30:04,430 --> 00:30:02,640 I'm like what is that so I started 681 00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:04,440 taking pictures and stuff and so when I 682 00:30:08,330 --> 00:30:06,899 got home I uh was looking at the 683 00:30:09,769 --> 00:30:08,340 pictures and then these pictures it 684 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:09,779 looks like um 685 00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:11,880 but there's something with red eyes in 686 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:13,740 there and you can see teeth 687 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,000 in the head uh it looks like a dog it 688 00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:20,640 really does it's pretty big there was 689 00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,240 three images that came up like that and 690 00:30:27,529 --> 00:30:25,919 um he said there have been some 691 00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:27,539 sightings of uh what they what you're 692 00:30:31,549 --> 00:30:29,220 calling a dog man that's running around 693 00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:31,559 out that way as well 694 00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:34,980 um but not so much as dogmen but more of 695 00:30:39,649 --> 00:30:37,140 Bigfoot it seems to 696 00:30:42,289 --> 00:30:39,659 the dogmen in that area seems like it 697 00:30:43,850 --> 00:30:42,299 has kind of faded out 698 00:30:45,289 --> 00:30:43,860 um probably because of the Bigfoot 699 00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:45,299 that's hanging around there to kind of 700 00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:47,220 push them out that's what I'm kind of 701 00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:49,260 assuming so because I haven't heard any 702 00:30:54,769 --> 00:30:50,880 more about that one 703 00:31:01,310 --> 00:30:56,330 um 704 00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:01,320 I haven't heard of a whole lot about 705 00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,980 uh cryptic canines as well I um 706 00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:06,960 you know I know Jason would kind of 707 00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:08,880 bring it up once in a while but he 708 00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:10,260 really didn't mention a whole lot about 709 00:31:14,269 --> 00:31:11,760 it 710 00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:14,279 um now I know that the uh the Navajo 711 00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:16,260 Rangers had 712 00:31:22,269 --> 00:31:19,380 had some had had a situation and I think 713 00:31:25,130 --> 00:31:22,279 it did a TV show about it as well 714 00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:25,140 about something in the caves the red 715 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:28,140 eyes looking out and such I I know you 716 00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:30,899 did several TV shows um can you kind of 717 00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:34,020 tell me a bit about what those um you 718 00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:37,500 know what you uh described on on the 719 00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:44,389 um well the Finding Bigfoot is the one 720 00:31:50,269 --> 00:31:47,039 that we come across some uh small 721 00:31:52,029 --> 00:31:50,279 Footprints uh along the river there a 722 00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:52,039 lot of um 723 00:31:58,669 --> 00:31:55,919 Bigfoot activity in that area it happens 724 00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,679 to be in the area where I live a lot of 725 00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:00,720 river crossing 726 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:03,899 um people hearing it yelling 727 00:32:10,669 --> 00:32:08,159 um also walking into the people's feels 728 00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:10,679 um the same thing out there in the 729 00:32:13,610 --> 00:32:13,020 hallback area 730 00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:13,620 um 731 00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:16,320 yeah just Roman roaming around the those 732 00:32:21,529 --> 00:32:19,320 areas and um if you're not careful you 733 00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:21,539 know they'll sometimes they'll walk out 734 00:32:25,490 --> 00:32:23,820 in front of you but not very close you 735 00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:25,500 know enough forward to where you can see 736 00:32:31,549 --> 00:32:27,480 it 737 00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:31,559 along the river 738 00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:35,580 know I always just you know thought that 739 00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,919 they would always go back up into the 740 00:32:41,090 --> 00:32:39,120 mountain I'm like why are they hanging 741 00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:41,100 around at the river what's listen we 742 00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,620 used to get a lot of uh deer 743 00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:45,840 that would come around but ever since 744 00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:47,640 these things have come in and we have to 745 00:32:52,970 --> 00:32:50,580 we don't see Deer uh around at all 746 00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:52,980 and if we do they're usually dead you 747 00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,480 know they've been eating and stuff 748 00:32:58,970 --> 00:32:56,159 ripped up 749 00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:58,980 and so that that's one 750 00:33:04,010 --> 00:33:01,260 um Finding Bigfoot the second time that 751 00:33:05,690 --> 00:33:04,020 we were all on I was my son when he 752 00:33:07,130 --> 00:33:05,700 actually 753 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:07,140 um 754 00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:12,000 I'll tell you a story on that one real 755 00:33:13,970 --> 00:33:12,720 quick 756 00:33:15,889 --> 00:33:13,980 so 757 00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:15,899 you know there's a you know a lot of 758 00:33:24,110 --> 00:33:17,340 people 759 00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:24,120 this and that they're not real and you 760 00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:25,440 know it doesn't have to be just Bigfoot 761 00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:27,480 it could be any kind of cryptic thing 762 00:33:31,210 --> 00:33:29,580 that's out there oh you guys are lying 763 00:33:37,130 --> 00:33:31,220 to making all of this up 764 00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:37,140 well my sister uh my niece her husband 765 00:33:42,769 --> 00:33:39,720 uh was making fun of us you know saying 766 00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:42,779 all kinds of stuff so one night they 767 00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:45,299 they showed up at our home here 768 00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:47,880 and he had brought along to to young 769 00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:50,039 guys and so they all had their shotguns 770 00:33:54,649 --> 00:33:51,240 with them 771 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,110 so they're like it was probably about 772 00:34:01,850 --> 00:33:59,279 what nine 773 00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,860 nine o'clock I think it was nine or ten 774 00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:04,080 o'clock that they showed up here 775 00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:06,120 and 776 00:34:11,810 --> 00:34:10,560 uh can you take us down there you know I 777 00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:11,820 don't think you guys are just making 778 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:14,220 this there's no Bigfoot down there 779 00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:17,760 so like okay and so I didn't go down 780 00:34:22,909 --> 00:34:19,859 there but I told my son I said take him 781 00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:22,919 down there and take him to on the the 782 00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:25,440 right side and take him into the field 783 00:34:28,849 --> 00:34:27,179 that's very dark 784 00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:28,859 I want you to take him there and don't 785 00:34:33,950 --> 00:34:31,379 shine your flashlight every once in a 786 00:34:36,169 --> 00:34:33,960 while to shine it 787 00:34:38,329 --> 00:34:36,179 so okay they're all laughing and 788 00:34:41,149 --> 00:34:38,339 giggling right making fun and now if 789 00:34:43,310 --> 00:34:41,159 they win now from where I live what 790 00:34:45,649 --> 00:34:43,320 probably about maybe less than a quarter 791 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:45,659 mile to the river so be on the north 792 00:34:49,550 --> 00:34:47,040 side of our home 793 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,560 so they take off to the backfield my son 794 00:34:54,109 --> 00:34:51,839 starts taking them back there 795 00:34:55,970 --> 00:34:54,119 once they I probably took him about 796 00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:55,980 maybe 20 797 00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,260 20 minutes to get to the end of the 798 00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:00,720 field way down in there about 25 about 799 00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:02,820 30 minutes for any total 800 00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:04,380 and all of a sudden they start hearing 801 00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:07,020 something you know I think it was a yell 802 00:35:11,630 --> 00:35:09,480 a slight Yale and so the guy's kind of 803 00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:11,640 like whoa what was that you know 804 00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:14,460 so he crosses onto another field heading 805 00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:15,780 west 806 00:35:21,470 --> 00:35:18,240 and so they finally get into this area 807 00:35:24,530 --> 00:35:21,480 so he tells the guys okay 808 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:24,540 we're going to set up make our bags to 809 00:35:29,150 --> 00:35:26,760 the street so you guys sit one to the 810 00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:29,160 west east north to south 811 00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:32,099 okay so they're all sitting tree right 812 00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:34,560 behind so they'll like circled with 813 00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:37,260 their bags on the tree 814 00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:40,260 and so they sat there for probably I 815 00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,900 think he's about oh 816 00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:44,880 must have been about hour and a half to 817 00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:47,160 almost two hours 818 00:35:53,210 --> 00:35:50,940 and they started hearing stuff 819 00:35:54,770 --> 00:35:53,220 and so the guys were kind of like 820 00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:54,780 getting kind of like what is that you 821 00:35:57,290 --> 00:35:55,859 know 822 00:36:05,089 --> 00:35:57,300 so 823 00:36:07,010 --> 00:36:05,099 maybe 20 20 yards in front of him 824 00:36:09,170 --> 00:36:07,020 there's some Bush here 825 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,180 all of a sudden they hear something so 826 00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:11,280 they're like what is that so my son he 827 00:36:15,230 --> 00:36:12,900 didn't Flash the light real quick and 828 00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:15,240 they got eyes shining and whatever that 829 00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,060 thing was it was on all fours and it was 830 00:36:23,690 --> 00:36:20,400 crawling right towards them 831 00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:23,700 and they he jumped up and the guys 832 00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:26,460 jumped like what the what is that oh 833 00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:29,700 they got scared I don't mean that I bet 834 00:36:32,930 --> 00:36:31,920 that terrorizing because it was just 835 00:36:35,569 --> 00:36:32,940 right there 836 00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:35,579 so when they all jumped up and this 837 00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:37,200 thing stood up 838 00:36:43,370 --> 00:36:39,480 they all like looked and it took off 839 00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:43,380 back to the way that they all came in 840 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,920 so the guys didn't know what to do they 841 00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:48,240 all freaked out 842 00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:50,700 um my son didn't but the the three guys 843 00:36:55,609 --> 00:36:53,400 that were all making fun and you know 844 00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,619 saying all kinds of stuff well 845 00:36:59,390 --> 00:36:57,599 you know they just experienced something 846 00:37:01,609 --> 00:36:59,400 you know and 847 00:37:03,650 --> 00:37:01,619 when they came back to the house which 848 00:37:05,569 --> 00:37:03,660 was probably around one o'clock in the 849 00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:05,579 morning 850 00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:07,500 okay like I said when they first got to 851 00:37:11,150 --> 00:37:09,060 our home they're all laughing and joking 852 00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:11,160 right so when they want to come back to 853 00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:14,940 my house guess what they were quiet and 854 00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:18,240 they didn't know what to say their eyes 855 00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:22,040 were so big they were like 856 00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:24,060 something's out there that shouldn't be 857 00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:25,800 there I don't know what the heck that 858 00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:29,040 was so before they came out of there my 859 00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:31,200 son tells them and they're like okay we 860 00:37:36,770 --> 00:37:34,140 got to go go I start heading out the way 861 00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,780 that thing ran out is the only way we 862 00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:39,119 can get out of here so that guys are 863 00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:41,220 like what you know so they're all 864 00:37:44,810 --> 00:37:42,720 freaking like oh my God so they have 865 00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:44,820 their guns already walking out 866 00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:47,460 and so they can start walking out of 867 00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:48,480 there 868 00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:50,940 and all of a sudden they see this black 869 00:37:55,849 --> 00:37:52,920 something black running right towards 870 00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,859 them all the guys got my son was telling 871 00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:58,320 me because they got so scared 872 00:38:04,370 --> 00:38:01,200 and it it wasn't what it was it was a 873 00:38:06,650 --> 00:38:04,380 the neighbor's dog I guess that 874 00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:06,660 um that uh 875 00:38:11,630 --> 00:38:09,060 scared them but whatever you know was 876 00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:11,640 there that was crawling towards them 877 00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:14,160 that was my son was his he that was a 878 00:38:20,569 --> 00:38:16,020 probably a juvenile Bigfoot which was 879 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:20,579 probably about some like five three 880 00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:25,440 so it was probably about maybe five five 881 00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:27,540 um he said was really kind of screen uh 882 00:38:34,910 --> 00:38:30,240 skinny Scraggy looking 883 00:38:36,770 --> 00:38:34,920 um it was all black uh like and um you 884 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:36,780 know like I said when they finally I got 885 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:39,660 back to the house they were quiet 886 00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:42,960 um the two young guys one was a 17 and a 887 00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:45,839 18 I believe 888 00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:48,900 about a week after that had happened my 889 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,180 sister was telling me Go because boy 890 00:38:55,849 --> 00:38:53,520 when those boys got home they were so 891 00:38:56,510 --> 00:38:55,859 terrified 892 00:38:58,609 --> 00:38:56,520 um 893 00:39:00,829 --> 00:38:58,619 one of the guys he wouldn't sleep in his 894 00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,839 room he was so scared he ended up 895 00:39:05,390 --> 00:39:02,400 sleeping with his mom and dad's room 896 00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:05,400 that's how scared he was I said okay he 897 00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:07,320 said don't ever make fun of anybody that 898 00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,320 experiencing something you know exactly 899 00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:12,720 you know like you know it's it's easy 900 00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:14,960 for anybody to sit behind the computer 901 00:39:20,329 --> 00:39:17,760 and start rambling off all you guys all 902 00:39:23,630 --> 00:39:20,339 fake blah blah blah but what you don't 903 00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:23,640 understand is the family some of them 904 00:39:28,089 --> 00:39:25,800 what they're going through with these um 905 00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:28,099 creatures that are running around and 906 00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:30,540 terrorizing the family if you can only 907 00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:34,440 see for yourself the terror in their 908 00:39:40,910 --> 00:39:37,440 eyes you know that's that's something 909 00:39:44,089 --> 00:39:40,920 you know so so you people out there that 910 00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:44,099 make fun of people you just need to stop 911 00:39:49,609 --> 00:39:47,400 you know one day you're gonna be out 912 00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:49,619 there and it's Gonna Knock You down you 913 00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:52,079 know so really be careful you know 914 00:39:56,690 --> 00:39:54,119 really my advice to you people out there 915 00:39:58,730 --> 00:39:56,700 that are are critics you know be careful 916 00:40:02,030 --> 00:39:58,740 what you say one day it'll come around 917 00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:02,040 bite you in the butt yeah I uh you know 918 00:40:06,650 --> 00:40:03,599 I have been for I was fortunate enough 919 00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:06,660 to talk to several people that lived in 920 00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:08,700 on the res and um 921 00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,920 yeah it's pretty harrowing some of the 922 00:40:14,450 --> 00:40:12,480 things that they have described and now 923 00:40:16,609 --> 00:40:14,460 not not some of the older folks wouldn't 924 00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:16,619 come forward some of the younger ones 925 00:40:20,270 --> 00:40:18,240 would I guess they would hear from their 926 00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:20,280 Elders or they would you know there are 927 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:21,359 some things they did experience 928 00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:25,200 themselves but uh you know the years I I 929 00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,500 was involved with with uh documenting 930 00:40:34,490 --> 00:40:30,720 some of the studies and stuff I really 931 00:40:36,109 --> 00:40:34,500 learned a lot you know I um you know we 932 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,119 do have a question I we did have a 933 00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:38,640 question here from Nancy Malcolm um is 934 00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:41,460 there any history of the people 935 00:40:45,470 --> 00:40:42,240 um 936 00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:45,480 you know worshiping or looking at the 937 00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:47,940 Bigfoot as a God or something what do 938 00:40:53,690 --> 00:40:50,640 they refer to it as I mean is it a 939 00:40:56,089 --> 00:40:53,700 spirit or they do believe it's it's a 940 00:41:00,829 --> 00:40:56,099 natural being or what are their thoughts 941 00:41:02,810 --> 00:41:00,839 overall well a lot of them the native 942 00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:02,820 side a lot of them believe that they're 943 00:41:06,829 --> 00:41:04,800 evil spirits and that they shouldn't be 944 00:41:11,329 --> 00:41:06,839 dealt with they just need to be left 945 00:41:12,829 --> 00:41:11,339 alone yeah that's why we're told in in 946 00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,839 the naval culture that you don't bother 947 00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:14,640 these things you leave them alone if you 948 00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:16,859 look at one 949 00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:19,020 um you're gonna die in seven years 950 00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:21,480 now this is the reason why when we get 951 00:41:26,270 --> 00:41:24,060 if I get a report or they'll call it in 952 00:41:28,190 --> 00:41:26,280 to PD that's why a lot of them won't 953 00:41:30,109 --> 00:41:28,200 come and investigate it because it's a 954 00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,119 taboo if you start looking into 955 00:41:34,370 --> 00:41:31,920 something that's going to happen to you 956 00:41:36,650 --> 00:41:34,380 that's why a lot of them back away and 957 00:41:41,630 --> 00:41:36,660 they won't they won't look into it 958 00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:41,640 now some people think that other people 959 00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:43,560 um they think that they're all you know 960 00:41:48,410 --> 00:41:46,020 they're good and all and their hair 961 00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:48,420 protectors and stuff like that some 962 00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:50,520 believe you know every culture and every 963 00:41:56,569 --> 00:41:52,980 individual believes differently 964 00:41:58,190 --> 00:41:56,579 so a lot of the Native Americans they 965 00:42:02,329 --> 00:41:58,200 believe that they're evil 966 00:42:05,569 --> 00:42:02,339 some believe that they are Watchers 967 00:42:07,370 --> 00:42:05,579 um some are believe that they're they're 968 00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:07,380 here to help 969 00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:11,040 you know uh the native people 970 00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,280 and so you know like I said it's all 971 00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:16,079 different every individual is different 972 00:42:20,569 --> 00:42:18,420 on how they believe it's not just the 973 00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:20,579 one one belief so it's all different 974 00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:26,510 um 975 00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:29,820 Jose Sanchez asked or Bigfoot dog man 976 00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:32,400 other Cryptids considered natural 977 00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:43,730 I I would say yes that they are 978 00:42:48,410 --> 00:42:45,359 um because like I said there used to be 979 00:42:51,230 --> 00:42:48,420 uh uh I would get a lot of 980 00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:51,240 um Dogman reports out towards you know 981 00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:53,820 uh the shipwalk in the hub back area but 982 00:42:58,130 --> 00:42:55,560 since Bigfoot has come in it's like 983 00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:58,140 they've pushed them out you know like 984 00:43:01,609 --> 00:43:00,420 get out of here this is my area now you 985 00:43:03,890 --> 00:43:01,619 know 986 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,900 um I I think they are I I believe some 987 00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:05,760 of them are enemies or some of them 988 00:43:10,609 --> 00:43:08,700 maybe who knows but we get along you 989 00:43:12,410 --> 00:43:10,619 know in some areas but I haven't seen 990 00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:12,420 them like hanging around close to each 991 00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:14,400 other but 992 00:43:21,530 --> 00:43:19,670 that sounds about right I mean that's 993 00:43:24,890 --> 00:43:21,540 kind of what the impression I have 994 00:43:27,650 --> 00:43:24,900 gotten I mean not just at the you know 995 00:43:29,809 --> 00:43:27,660 Navajo Nation other places well it seems 996 00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:29,819 like they do not like being around each 997 00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:32,520 other yeah um yeah yeah 998 00:43:37,550 --> 00:43:35,040 uh Nancy Malcolm ass and this is in 999 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,560 reference to the sheet mutilation uh 1000 00:43:43,130 --> 00:43:39,359 were there any pritz around 1001 00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,140 uh that you noticed could dogs have been 1002 00:43:47,530 --> 00:43:45,359 involved with this 1003 00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:47,540 um okay so the one that I was 1004 00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,520 investigating uh they thought it was a 1005 00:43:55,550 --> 00:43:52,800 pack of dogs so they wouldn't kill some 1006 00:43:57,770 --> 00:43:55,560 dogs but these were small dogs 1007 00:43:58,730 --> 00:43:57,780 and like I said the footprint that I 1008 00:44:02,150 --> 00:43:58,740 found 1009 00:44:03,530 --> 00:44:02,160 they look more like a horse's hoof what 1010 00:44:07,609 --> 00:44:03,540 I've come across 1011 00:44:10,970 --> 00:44:07,619 and so when I looked 1012 00:44:12,829 --> 00:44:10,980 um even inside the Corral again it 1013 00:44:15,770 --> 00:44:12,839 looked like horse's hooves that I found 1014 00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,780 inside the Corral 1015 00:44:20,030 --> 00:44:18,000 and but they did kill some dogs they 1016 00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:20,040 thought maybe it was the dogs and these 1017 00:44:24,349 --> 00:44:22,319 were just puppies that they killed I 1018 00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:24,359 thought it was a pack of dogs but I'm 1019 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,839 like no not what I've I've seen on the 1020 00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:30,000 uh that that Ram 1021 00:44:35,390 --> 00:44:33,180 like a hand imprint you know with that 1022 00:44:38,210 --> 00:44:35,400 sharp nail you know that that that's not 1023 00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:38,220 dog no yeah you know some of the 1024 00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,940 photographs that I saw from Hogback that 1025 00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,160 was not dogs I mean they would have been 1026 00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:46,079 ripped apart I mean there was just there 1027 00:44:51,650 --> 00:44:49,140 was just no blood anywhere 1028 00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:51,660 um you know it's like like you said I 1029 00:44:56,750 --> 00:44:54,240 mean that there were a few incisions on 1030 00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:56,760 the necks and there was a little bit of 1031 00:45:02,030 --> 00:44:59,760 blood around the incisions but you know 1032 00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,040 it was yeah it's just like it sucked it 1033 00:45:09,170 --> 00:45:04,800 right out yeah very very interesting 1034 00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:09,180 very interesting huh yeah but going back 1035 00:45:13,309 --> 00:45:10,980 to the the Bigfoot that's the second 1036 00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:13,319 show that was my son that did that one 1037 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:15,900 there okay so um 1038 00:45:21,050 --> 00:45:19,560 and then the uh what the other one did I 1039 00:45:23,450 --> 00:45:21,060 do well of course we did the Ghost 1040 00:45:26,809 --> 00:45:23,460 Adventures right that one was based on 1041 00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:26,819 what my son went through here at home 1042 00:45:33,410 --> 00:45:30,660 um can you talk about that a bit sure 1043 00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:33,420 um so there was one night before we 1044 00:45:36,770 --> 00:45:35,460 moved into our home here our house that 1045 00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:36,780 we're building 1046 00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:39,240 uh we stayed in a little uh I guess this 1047 00:45:46,370 --> 00:45:42,480 little uh trailer uh RV trailer we 1048 00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:46,380 stayed there for a while and my son 1049 00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:51,720 um I guess he was asleep in uh he um 1050 00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:54,240 I felt something that was sitting on him 1051 00:46:00,650 --> 00:45:57,540 and he tried to move he said that it was 1052 00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,660 on top of him and like it was choking 1053 00:46:07,370 --> 00:46:02,640 him 1054 00:46:09,410 --> 00:46:07,380 um what the strange thing is he came 1055 00:46:11,450 --> 00:46:09,420 when he got up I think when it finally 1056 00:46:14,089 --> 00:46:11,460 released him 1057 00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,099 um if I remember right he came in the 1058 00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:16,079 bedroom and 1059 00:46:20,329 --> 00:46:18,420 um woke me and asked me to come sit with 1060 00:46:23,230 --> 00:46:20,339 him and pray but okay now he didn't 1061 00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:23,240 describe to me what was on him okay 1062 00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,460 nothing I didn't ask what happened or 1063 00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:29,760 you know what's going on I didn't ask at 1064 00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:32,640 anything of what had happened to him 1065 00:46:36,589 --> 00:46:34,680 he just asked me to read some verses 1066 00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:36,599 with him and sit and talk with him for a 1067 00:46:41,630 --> 00:46:39,119 few and pray with him that's all I did 1068 00:46:44,270 --> 00:46:41,640 okay so I went back to bed 1069 00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:44,280 and that was probably about maybe I 1070 00:46:46,730 --> 00:46:45,660 think it was about two in the morning I 1071 00:46:49,010 --> 00:46:46,740 believe 1072 00:46:50,990 --> 00:46:49,020 and so when I went back into my our 1073 00:46:52,849 --> 00:46:51,000 little room then I went to lay down and 1074 00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:52,859 go back to sleep 1075 00:46:57,230 --> 00:46:55,680 just a few minutes later I just had this 1076 00:47:00,170 --> 00:46:57,240 really 1077 00:47:02,809 --> 00:47:00,180 Eerie feeling that something was 1078 00:47:06,530 --> 00:47:02,819 watching watching us sleep 1079 00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:06,540 and so when I looked 1080 00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:09,060 I see what to me what looked like a 1081 00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:11,220 little boy 1082 00:47:17,390 --> 00:47:14,880 standing there at the uh at the entrance 1083 00:47:19,130 --> 00:47:17,400 of our doorway but wouldn't come in he 1084 00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:19,140 was just standing there 1085 00:47:25,370 --> 00:47:22,079 and he was wearing the blue jeans you 1086 00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:25,380 look like a little boy blue jeans and I 1087 00:47:29,390 --> 00:47:28,560 believe it was um a blue 1088 00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:29,400 um 1089 00:47:34,730 --> 00:47:32,400 plotted shirt I think it was is he the 1090 00:47:37,550 --> 00:47:34,740 blue or red I think the blue 1091 00:47:40,670 --> 00:47:37,560 and but it didn't have no face 1092 00:47:43,849 --> 00:47:40,680 the face was just black nothing 1093 00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:43,859 so when I looked up and I looked there 1094 00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:46,319 and what I said was in the name of Jesus 1095 00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:48,780 is get out of here and it was gone 1096 00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,839 okay so the next morning 1097 00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:53,760 when I got up 1098 00:47:57,710 --> 00:47:56,040 and my son that he finally got up and I 1099 00:48:02,270 --> 00:47:57,720 got myself and talked to him I said I'm 1100 00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:04,329 I said there was a little boy like 1101 00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:07,680 standing in front of our our Doorway to 1102 00:48:10,970 --> 00:48:09,660 the bedroom I told him what it was 1103 00:48:13,790 --> 00:48:10,980 learned 1104 00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:13,800 and it didn't have no face 1105 00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:19,079 his face just sunk he's just like mom 1106 00:48:22,550 --> 00:48:21,359 that thing was on top of me choking me 1107 00:48:25,550 --> 00:48:22,560 last night 1108 00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:25,560 I couldn't talk I couldn't scream it 1109 00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:27,900 held me down I tried to move I could 1110 00:48:32,930 --> 00:48:29,880 move 1111 00:48:34,849 --> 00:48:32,940 and finally when I said Jesus and then 1112 00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:34,859 that thing left it was gone he goes I 1113 00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:36,960 was so scared 1114 00:48:41,630 --> 00:48:38,700 and so 1115 00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:41,640 what I described to him is what was on 1116 00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:42,839 him that night 1117 00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:47,220 and that really scared him and so 1118 00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:50,700 we've had some um like our kids at the 1119 00:48:55,010 --> 00:48:52,859 time like I said were building this home 1120 00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:55,020 and they would come in and kind of play 1121 00:48:59,569 --> 00:48:56,880 around in here you know run around and 1122 00:49:01,910 --> 00:48:59,579 they would hear footsteps 1123 00:49:04,370 --> 00:49:01,920 they would hear like a little girl 1124 00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,380 sitting in the corner and they could 1125 00:49:08,569 --> 00:49:06,480 hear a little girl laughing 1126 00:49:10,370 --> 00:49:08,579 and they would always tell me my mom 1127 00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:10,380 then there's there's something in their 1128 00:49:13,609 --> 00:49:11,940 house it's it's movie you know I can 1129 00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:13,619 hear we can hear it running running 1130 00:49:17,890 --> 00:49:15,300 around like no there's nothing you know 1131 00:49:20,030 --> 00:49:17,900 I always blew it off 1132 00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:20,040 they're just kids you know they're just 1133 00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:21,119 having fun 1134 00:49:27,950 --> 00:49:25,200 and so that that um episode that was 1135 00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:27,960 what we did on the Ghost Adventures that 1136 00:49:33,410 --> 00:49:30,900 was based off my son my oldest son uh he 1137 00:49:35,569 --> 00:49:33,420 went through through that and so he 1138 00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:35,579 shared that on their 1139 00:49:40,609 --> 00:49:38,700 I had to go back and watch it yeah I 1140 00:49:42,589 --> 00:49:40,619 think it was called the uh the curse of 1141 00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:42,599 upper Fruitland something like that uh 1142 00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,760 of those Adventures yeah so if you guys 1143 00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:46,079 want to check that out I'll look for it 1144 00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:48,300 yeah look for it and watching us you 1145 00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:50,040 know some stuff on there that uh it's 1146 00:49:56,750 --> 00:49:53,760 like wow you'd be surprised have you had 1147 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,760 any activity has the activity continued 1148 00:50:02,750 --> 00:49:59,040 at all there 1149 00:50:03,290 --> 00:50:02,760 um after they did that episode there 1150 00:50:06,109 --> 00:50:03,300 um 1151 00:50:08,270 --> 00:50:06,119 well it's changes it it just stopped 1152 00:50:10,130 --> 00:50:08,280 after they got really filming when they 1153 00:50:12,650 --> 00:50:10,140 left 1154 00:50:15,650 --> 00:50:12,660 um you know as I cat asked me if he uh 1155 00:50:18,170 --> 00:50:15,660 wanted to send the priest over I said no 1156 00:50:19,790 --> 00:50:18,180 um I can get my my at that time I can 1157 00:50:21,710 --> 00:50:19,800 get my dad here because he's a preacher 1158 00:50:23,390 --> 00:50:21,720 and he can do the blessing on the land 1159 00:50:24,410 --> 00:50:23,400 and stuff like that and we did do that 1160 00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:24,420 before 1161 00:50:29,329 --> 00:50:28,740 you know uh do we started building but 1162 00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,339 um 1163 00:50:34,030 --> 00:50:31,680 our Neighbor Next Door they've been 1164 00:50:36,589 --> 00:50:34,040 having the same activity too as well 1165 00:50:37,490 --> 00:50:36,599 they've been seeing a lot of ghosts and 1166 00:50:41,450 --> 00:50:37,500 stuff 1167 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,460 and they got to talking to my husband 1168 00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:43,680 said well I've got to he told my husband 1169 00:50:47,630 --> 00:50:45,240 that the reason why we're having 1170 00:50:50,349 --> 00:50:47,640 activity here I mean we're having a lot 1171 00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:50,359 of activity here during that time 1172 00:50:57,290 --> 00:50:54,000 and some of the stuff that we've seen on 1173 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,300 our home plot on our property alone is 1174 00:51:03,349 --> 00:50:59,760 I'm just like wow you know what are we 1175 00:51:06,049 --> 00:51:03,359 living on yeah so I uh 1176 00:51:06,890 --> 00:51:06,059 he told my husband our Neighbor Next 1177 00:51:08,990 --> 00:51:06,900 Door 1178 00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:09,000 that they've been having you know seeing 1179 00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:10,260 ghosts and stuff like that things 1180 00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:12,900 tapping on the windows and all and their 1181 00:51:17,150 --> 00:51:15,720 little boy one night I guess um they 1182 00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:17,160 were coming home like I said they live 1183 00:51:20,750 --> 00:51:18,660 next door to us 1184 00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:20,760 he said yeah you guys have some gnomes 1185 00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:22,800 on your yard which is because my my 1186 00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:24,900 little boy seen some gnomes on your yard 1187 00:51:30,109 --> 00:51:27,920 I'm like oh my God we have gnomes now 1188 00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:30,119 everyone's like oh what else is there 1189 00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:33,240 yeah so he said that he got to talking 1190 00:51:38,690 --> 00:51:36,480 to you know I get asked a lot of people 1191 00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,700 always asking me what is it that these 1192 00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:40,559 things are are 1193 00:51:46,130 --> 00:51:44,220 are like um attracted to your property 1194 00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,140 what what what's on there what happened 1195 00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:48,480 on your property I'm like I don't know 1196 00:51:52,670 --> 00:51:51,240 you know so I guess the the guy like I 1197 00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:52,680 said next door he talked to a medicine 1198 00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:55,020 man and he said years ago probably back 1199 00:51:58,430 --> 00:51:55,859 in the 1200 00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,440 30s or 40s something like that I guess 1201 00:52:03,049 --> 00:52:00,240 there used to be Cemetery 1202 00:52:05,089 --> 00:52:03,059 on here on the property of your Lebanon 1203 00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,099 that's the reason why we're having a lot 1204 00:52:09,890 --> 00:52:06,960 of activity and they're having a lot of 1205 00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:09,900 activity too so as far as like a 1206 00:52:15,049 --> 00:52:13,200 graveyard here an odd plot I have never 1207 00:52:16,970 --> 00:52:15,059 heard of that I don't I don't know but 1208 00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:16,980 it's possible I don't know but that's 1209 00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:19,740 what this guy said so I don't know you 1210 00:52:23,150 --> 00:52:21,720 know maybe that explained that could 1211 00:52:25,970 --> 00:52:23,160 explain all this 1212 00:52:27,470 --> 00:52:25,980 things that we're seeing like what we 1213 00:52:31,069 --> 00:52:27,480 call it on camera what I call it ghost 1214 00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:31,079 the wolf that flies across the camera 1215 00:52:34,730 --> 00:52:33,000 you know and that's strange because I 1216 00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:34,740 don't have no head but you can see the 1217 00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:37,440 legs and the tail you know is that right 1218 00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:41,040 yeah and uh that's on our our you have a 1219 00:52:45,230 --> 00:52:42,720 YouTube channel it's called New Mexico 1220 00:52:47,089 --> 00:52:45,240 Chantal Seekers I have some videos on 1221 00:52:49,309 --> 00:52:47,099 there some of the investigations that 1222 00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:49,319 I've done so you can check those out on 1223 00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,240 this one 1224 00:52:55,069 --> 00:52:52,559 yeah that one I'm talking about this 1225 00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:55,079 call I believe it's called ghost dwarf I 1226 00:52:58,849 --> 00:52:56,460 think that's what it was 1227 00:53:00,589 --> 00:52:58,859 and then there's something else that 1228 00:53:03,230 --> 00:53:00,599 looks like it boils up from the ground 1229 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:03,240 looks like a juvenile book ubiquid 1230 00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,760 that comes up it's really wow you're 1231 00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:07,440 just gonna have to check out that video 1232 00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:09,480 that's the video that they use on the 1233 00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:12,540 Ghost Adventures too as well okay so you 1234 00:53:17,329 --> 00:53:14,339 can check that out there 1235 00:53:19,790 --> 00:53:17,339 I I know you have had several I know you 1236 00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:19,800 have had several photographs that you 1237 00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,280 have released over the years uh I know I 1238 00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,440 remember the one of the Bigfoot that 1239 00:53:31,970 --> 00:53:28,079 kind of was coming over the hill 1240 00:53:33,530 --> 00:53:31,980 uh that that photograph and I think and 1241 00:53:34,250 --> 00:53:33,540 I don't know if it was I think it was 1242 00:53:37,069 --> 00:53:34,260 you 1243 00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:37,079 had taken a photograph of an upright 1244 00:53:41,710 --> 00:53:39,960 canine type creature near a well was 1245 00:53:46,970 --> 00:53:41,720 that you it did that 1246 00:53:49,309 --> 00:53:46,980 well maybe not I don't think so yeah not 1247 00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:49,319 that one you know I was getting 1248 00:53:54,130 --> 00:53:52,380 um I was I was getting a fair amount of 1249 00:54:00,530 --> 00:53:54,140 uh 1250 00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:00,540 out of the the Navajo Nation it was 1251 00:54:03,950 --> 00:54:02,160 mostly younger of course the older 1252 00:54:06,890 --> 00:54:03,960 people wouldn't talk about it at all 1253 00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:06,900 right but uh some of the younger ones 1254 00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:10,319 would and uh I guess they would talk 1255 00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:12,480 about either they had an experience or a 1256 00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:13,920 possible experience but they would talk 1257 00:54:17,690 --> 00:54:15,180 about the the 1258 00:54:20,930 --> 00:54:17,700 um about their grandparents for the most 1259 00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:20,940 part having experiences uh I I'm I'm 1260 00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:23,099 pretty sure that hasn't changed much 1261 00:54:31,849 --> 00:54:29,329 uh I mean I I you know do you get do you 1262 00:54:35,569 --> 00:54:31,859 get a lot of reports of a skin walker 1263 00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:38,990 I do but they they don't say a whole lot 1264 00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:41,700 you know they just keep it to themselves 1265 00:54:46,010 --> 00:54:44,520 um because they know how to they they a 1266 00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,020 lot of the the natives know how to deal 1267 00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:47,520 with that it's a lot of it they tell me 1268 00:54:52,790 --> 00:54:50,400 it's witchcraft don't don't don't don't 1269 00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:52,800 um you know get into it you know so just 1270 00:54:58,490 --> 00:54:56,760 leave it you know so it is true you know 1271 00:55:01,730 --> 00:54:58,500 as they say be careful with that one 1272 00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,740 because that one can can get you 1273 00:55:06,290 --> 00:55:03,359 um 1274 00:55:08,089 --> 00:55:06,300 which is true because like I said it's 1275 00:55:10,609 --> 00:55:08,099 witchcraft so they 1276 00:55:14,030 --> 00:55:10,619 um then they won't bother you know a lot 1277 00:55:16,010 --> 00:55:14,040 the elders oh my gosh they they have so 1278 00:55:18,890 --> 00:55:16,020 much stories and things that they have 1279 00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:18,900 seen in their lifetime that sometimes I 1280 00:55:23,630 --> 00:55:21,180 wish they would you know share with us 1281 00:55:27,049 --> 00:55:23,640 now the generation now but they're like 1282 00:55:32,530 --> 00:55:27,059 no you know you that you just that's all 1283 00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:35,569 I'm very I'm very respectful when I 1284 00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:38,880 talked to some of the elders and um 1285 00:55:43,549 --> 00:55:41,880 and I have in the past and I I no they 1286 00:55:45,950 --> 00:55:43,559 are they are uncomfortable talking about 1287 00:55:47,450 --> 00:55:45,960 it and uh yes occasionally when the 1288 00:55:49,069 --> 00:55:47,460 younger when their grandchildren 1289 00:55:53,390 --> 00:55:49,079 children will come out and say a little 1290 00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:53,400 bit but uh it's very 1291 00:55:58,970 --> 00:55:55,760 you know it's very hard 1292 00:56:01,130 --> 00:55:58,980 yeah yeah absolutely absolutely it's 1293 00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:01,140 just like when the Ghost Adventures that 1294 00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,880 the crew that came down I think they did 1295 00:56:07,609 --> 00:56:05,040 after we did our filming they did 1296 00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:07,619 another one with the uh the skinwalker 1297 00:56:12,890 --> 00:56:09,599 Canyon I don't know if you've seen that 1298 00:56:15,170 --> 00:56:12,900 one oh boy they got it they had a lot of 1299 00:56:16,670 --> 00:56:15,180 heat on that one and I told them I told 1300 00:56:19,130 --> 00:56:16,680 the producer because they were talking 1301 00:56:22,130 --> 00:56:19,140 about it I said I'm telling you right 1302 00:56:24,890 --> 00:56:22,140 now don't do it you're gonna get a lot 1303 00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:24,900 of backlash on the native people did 1304 00:56:30,650 --> 00:56:28,920 they believe me no they went ahead and 1305 00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:30,660 filmed you know and they went yeah did 1306 00:56:36,589 --> 00:56:33,000 one on the skinwalker and 1307 00:56:39,049 --> 00:56:36,599 no the backlash was pretty bad that's 1308 00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:39,059 pretty much what I understood for you 1309 00:56:42,770 --> 00:56:40,559 know with you know when I got involved 1310 00:56:44,569 --> 00:56:42,780 with some people that would you know 1311 00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,579 they wanted to know more they would and 1312 00:56:48,349 --> 00:56:46,559 talk try to talk to people and I I would 1313 00:56:50,329 --> 00:56:48,359 tell them I said no I've been warned not 1314 00:56:53,569 --> 00:56:50,339 to do it and I wouldn't advise you to do 1315 00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:53,579 it as well yeah so that's what I tell 1316 00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:56,640 people I I do I get a lot of phone calls 1317 00:57:02,750 --> 00:56:59,760 uh from L.A they want to talk about Skin 1318 00:57:04,609 --> 00:57:02,760 Walkers you're like no no I that is one 1319 00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:04,619 thing that I really don't wanna 1320 00:57:10,730 --> 00:57:07,200 do we go that stuff's real yeah it's 1321 00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,740 real it's it's real and then you it 1322 00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:12,960 could drive you nuts I have heard some 1323 00:57:17,770 --> 00:57:15,119 really harrowing Tales I really have and 1324 00:57:20,089 --> 00:57:17,780 uh I I absolutely believe it 1325 00:57:21,530 --> 00:57:20,099 well Brenda I thank you for coming on 1326 00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,540 why don't you tell the folks how they 1327 00:57:25,790 --> 00:57:24,000 can get in contact with you if they've 1328 00:57:28,970 --> 00:57:25,800 got something they want to discuss with 1329 00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,980 you and uh you know uh what you plan on 1330 00:57:32,329 --> 00:57:30,480 doing soon I hope you're getting out 1331 00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:32,339 there soon again because I'd like for 1332 00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:33,960 you I'd like for you to contact me and 1333 00:57:39,230 --> 00:57:36,420 let me know what's going on out there oh 1334 00:57:42,349 --> 00:57:39,240 I will I will I'm going to be doing uh 1335 00:57:43,849 --> 00:57:42,359 uh the one of the uh the one I saw me 1336 00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,859 earlier about the chickens that were 1337 00:57:47,329 --> 00:57:45,839 being killed so I'm gonna go do some 1338 00:57:49,490 --> 00:57:47,339 filming over there hopefully this 1339 00:57:52,490 --> 00:57:49,500 weekend right now we're going through a 1340 00:57:54,530 --> 00:57:52,500 storm uh snow snowstorm that's moving 1341 00:57:56,030 --> 00:57:54,540 through we got a lot of snow today kind 1342 00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:56,040 of a lot of snow but the weather's been 1343 00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:58,140 bad uh pretty much all week 1344 00:58:01,609 --> 00:58:00,240 so hopefully this week and I hope the 1345 00:58:03,470 --> 00:58:01,619 weather will be nice where I can get 1346 00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,480 back out and start doing some stuff but 1347 00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:05,040 I do have some videos that I need to 1348 00:58:08,990 --> 00:58:06,839 work on 1349 00:58:10,670 --> 00:58:09,000 um to get them posted and stuff once I 1350 00:58:13,309 --> 00:58:10,680 get those done and then I will share 1351 00:58:15,049 --> 00:58:13,319 with you and um let you know what's 1352 00:58:17,809 --> 00:58:15,059 going on but people if you want to get 1353 00:58:19,730 --> 00:58:17,819 in contact with me I'm on Facebook uh 1354 00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:19,740 Brenda Harris uh you can message me 1355 00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:23,280 there or my email address is it's all 1356 00:58:30,410 --> 00:58:26,960 lowercase Harris brenda46 yahoo.com 1357 00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:30,420 also I have a team Page New Mexico 1358 00:58:35,690 --> 00:58:33,599 Shadow Seekers on Facebook as well 1359 00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:35,700 so um yeah a lot of people ask me how 1360 00:58:40,430 --> 00:58:37,200 come you haven't posted well you know 1361 00:58:41,230 --> 00:58:40,440 due to the um like I said covet and 1362 00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:41,240 stuff 1363 00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:45,780 and then also uh what do you call the um 1364 00:58:50,089 --> 00:58:47,520 oh my husband's hell 1365 00:58:52,670 --> 00:58:50,099 right so I've been dealing a lot with 1366 00:58:55,130 --> 00:58:52,680 you well I feel for my wife my wife 1367 00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:55,140 passed from colon cancer and I I know 1368 00:58:58,970 --> 00:58:56,880 you know I know exactly what you're 1369 00:59:01,370 --> 00:58:58,980 going through yeah I'm sorry to hear 1370 00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:01,380 that but yeah it's been a roller coaster 1371 00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:03,440 this past three 1372 00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:06,079 last year we thought we almost lost him 1373 00:59:11,809 --> 00:59:09,359 but uh he's he's good now so just keep 1374 00:59:14,510 --> 00:59:11,819 us all in prayer and I will be um 1375 00:59:17,150 --> 00:59:14,520 getting back activity on my New Mexico 1376 00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:17,160 Shadow Seekers Facebook page so I'll be 1377 00:59:21,770 --> 00:59:19,260 posting some stuff there here uh pretty 1378 00:59:23,569 --> 00:59:21,780 soon again getting all my material uh 1379 00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,579 ready to get posted so but anything 1380 00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:25,440 comes up I'll I will be looking for 1381 00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,799 Yolanda absolutely I appreciate that and 1382 00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:30,240 is there anything you want me to report 1383 00:59:35,450 --> 00:59:32,880 on for you or to promote for you just 1384 00:59:38,690 --> 00:59:35,460 let me know oh yeah okay can I mention 1385 00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:38,700 one thing I will uh this year I will be 1386 00:59:45,170 --> 00:59:42,000 speaking uh at the Creek uh 1387 00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:45,180 paranormal conference May 19th through 1388 00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:47,520 the 21st so I hope you all can make it 1389 00:59:53,390 --> 00:59:50,160 I'm really excited about this 1390 00:59:57,470 --> 00:59:53,400 um it's going to be pretty awesome so 1391 01:00:00,349 --> 00:59:57,480 um also I I might be working the maybe 1392 01:00:02,210 --> 01:00:00,359 doing a little video with the Paranormal 1393 01:00:05,450 --> 01:00:02,220 Rangers which is they were the former 1394 01:00:07,130 --> 01:00:05,460 Navajo Rangers right so hopefully y'all 1395 01:00:09,650 --> 01:00:07,140 can get a little investigation going 1396 01:00:10,970 --> 01:00:09,660 with these guys so I'm excited to do 1397 01:00:12,530 --> 01:00:10,980 some work with these guys it'd be 1398 01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,540 awesome 1399 01:00:17,870 --> 01:00:14,880 well that'd be great and I'm looking 1400 01:00:20,030 --> 01:00:17,880 forward to hearing from you oh well I'll 1401 01:00:22,010 --> 01:00:20,040 keep you um updated on all that stuff 1402 01:00:24,170 --> 01:00:22,020 okay well you take care and thanks again 1403 01:00:25,970 --> 01:00:24,180 for coming on oh you're welcome thank 1404 01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,980 you so much for having me on thank you 1405 01:00:31,309 --> 01:00:27,119 so much 1406 01:00:33,289 --> 01:00:31,319 you take care bye-bye you too bye 1407 01:00:35,210 --> 01:00:33,299 now if you had a citing or encounter 1408 01:00:37,010 --> 01:00:35,220 report that you'd like to be considered 1409 01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:37,020 from the personal report show or for 1410 01:00:40,990 --> 01:00:39,119 fams of monsters block site you can 1411 01:00:43,010 --> 01:00:41,000 contact me at lawn 1412 01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:43,020 stricklerfamilsofmonster.com now I want 1413 01:00:46,910 --> 01:00:44,400 to again thank Brandon Harris for 1414 01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:46,920 joining me this evening and thanks to 1415 01:00:51,230 --> 01:00:48,780 each one of you for uh watching and 1416 01:00:53,829 --> 01:00:51,240 chatting and if you did leave a donation 1417 01:00:56,289 --> 01:00:53,839 I'd very much appreciate it 1418 01:00:58,609 --> 01:00:56,299 uh now tonight 1419 01:01:00,170 --> 01:00:58,619 Vincent's scheduled show is not going to 1420 01:01:01,190 --> 01:01:00,180 be on like I said earlier it's been 1421 01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:01,200 canceled 1422 01:01:07,309 --> 01:01:04,640 uh so on Friday night at 9 00 p.m 1423 01:01:09,470 --> 01:01:07,319 eastern time at 6 p.m Pacific 1424 01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:09,480 investigator filmmaker 1425 01:01:15,650 --> 01:01:12,240 and fans and monsters 14 Research 1426 01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:15,660 affiliate Eric mentel will join me 1427 01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:18,240 and he's going to be discussing some 1428 01:01:23,710 --> 01:01:20,700 recent cases and some upcoming projects 1429 01:01:26,470 --> 01:01:23,720 that he and his team had planned for 1430 01:01:30,530 --> 01:01:26,480 2023 so that should be quite interesting 1431 01:01:33,589 --> 01:01:30,540 and then later on that night at 11 PM 1432 01:01:36,130 --> 01:01:33,599 Eastern uh Bernadette McDaniel and at a 1433 01:01:39,950 --> 01:01:36,140 paranormal life will have her guest 1434 01:01:43,789 --> 01:01:39,960 Astro photographer and experiencer Louis 1435 01:01:46,010 --> 01:01:43,799 Nova so make sure you join uh join her